“This is not a coalition of losers.” Deputy head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs on Morawiecki’s visits to the Baltic States

“This is not a coalition of losers. It is strengthening the coalition of NATO’s eastern flank, the countries that are most endangered and, at the same time, interested in further actions towards our eastern neighbors,” said Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Marcin Przydacz in a morning interview in RMF FM. Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki with the heads of governments of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. “Tomorrow there will be a meeting with the V4 on security issues, followed by further visits – already in Western Europe” – he added.

European unity is maintained. The decision by the EU Foreign Affairs Council to impose sanctions was made not long ago, on Monday. The fact that Chancellor Angela Merkel is looking for some contacts at the same time (with Lukashenka – editor’s note) this is a bit of a different matter – explained the deputy head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. I think Merkel was aware of the risks in taking her actions. She made this and no other decision and takes full responsibility for it. As the Polish government, we knew about these talks, we were not consulted and we do not take responsibility for their effects – added.

This was the agreement with Prime Minister Babisz. Later it turned out that the other party was not so much interested in finalizing this agreement – said Marcin Przydacz in the Internet part of the Morning conversation in RMF FM, when asked about talks with the Czechs regarding the mine and power plant in Turów. Today, other people in the Czech Republic will be ruled by other people, I think more flexible, open-minded, but also understanding the political and international context of this situation – added the deputy head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. I hope that this agreement will be reached within the next few weeks from the establishment of the Czech government. We will find an agreement with the Czechs. There will be a new government, there will be a new partner Przydacz assured.

The program also asked whether Poland is ready for another conflict with Brussels over changes in the Polish justice system. Certainly, if there are further bills for this reform, we will keep our European partners informed, but in the spirit of building a peaceful dialogue around it. Let us remember that the issue of judicial reform is the exclusive competence of the Member States Przydacz replied.

Robert Mazurek, RMF FM: Marcin Przydacz, deputy minister of foreign affairs is with us. From your own home, not from the plane?

Marcin Przydacz: From my own home, although yesterday evening I accompanied the prime minister on the plane during his visit to the Baltic states.

Three countries in one day.

That’s true. So decided the prime minister and his counterparts. We need urgent, joint consultations on what is happening – not only at the borders of our three countries with Belarus, but in the region in general in the context of the security situation, as reported by international press agencies, but also by the head of Ukrainian intelligence – I say here, of course, about Russia’s increased activity around Ukraine.

You were with the prime minister in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. This looks a bit like building a coalition of losers. It seems that Lukashenka beat us all – he made an agreement with the Germans, got money and perhaps even the sanctions against Belavia will be lifted.

There is no indication of that, sir. This is not a coalition of losers. It is strengthening the coalition of NATO’s eastern flank, the countries that are most at risk and, at the same time, interested in further actions towards our eastern neighbors. That is why the prime minister is starting to strengthen this coalition with the Baltic states. Tomorrow there will be a meeting with V4 on security issues, followed by further visits – already in Western Europe. V4 or the Visegrad Group.

Only a diplomatic offensive is supposed to strengthen our neighbors, but they are still convinced that Lukashenka is a serious problem. Is it not a more serious problem to convince our western partners – Germany, France – that what is happening is a serious matter and should not be dealt with over our heads with Lukashenka?

Let us remember that European unity is maintained. The decision by the EU Foreign Affairs Council to impose sanctions was made not long ago, on Monday. The fact that Chancellor Angela Merkel is looking for some contacts at the same time (with Lukashenka – editor’s note) is a slightly different matter. The EU’s decisions are in force, and so is the position within NATO.

“Any talks with Mr. Lukashenka are useful to him insofar as they legitimize his regime,” says the Polish Prime Minister, Mateusz Morawiecki. Sviatlana Cichanouska, the leader of the Belarusian opposition, says directly: “We should not talk to the dictator.”

This objection appears, of course. I think Merkel was aware of the risks in taking her actions. She made this and no other decision and takes full responsibility for it. As the Polish government, we knew about these talks, we were not consulted and we do not take responsibility for their effects. I would ask you not to fall victim to Lukashenka’s disinformation. We have no information – public or non-public – about Merkel.

The Lithuanian Minister of Foreign Affairs wrote that perhaps the sanctions against Belavia – the Belarusian airlines – would be lifted. This is not Lukashenka’s propaganda.

Belavia is not under sanctions. He’s banned from flying to Europe.

This is some kind of sanction.

In my opinion, nothing changes in this respect. The discussion about covering specific airlines continues. We, as Poland, have always repeated – depending on how these airlines react to our demands, they will or will not be subject to sanctions. If they cooperate, they won’t be on the sanctions lists.

The most important thing for us is our safety. It looks like we are talking to the Baltic countries, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary. Are we in constant contact with Germany, with France, with the United States?

This is why we are building this regional coalition so that we can appear in talks with foreign partners with a strengthened mandate. Naturally – the further they are from the border with Belarus, the more they perceive it a bit differently.

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